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An Atheist Debates with Dr Zakir
0:00morning mr. zakir naik my name is jaime
0:02sh domani
0:03first of all i want to thank you for
0:05what you're doing you have really taken
0:06a lot away from me I'm sure my question
0:11is on your point number three actually I
0:13have three questions if you could be so
0:14kind but on point number three first of
0:18all I felt that you it was very evasive
0:20your your answer but what I'm going to
0:22ask you is very simple when you talk
0:25about terrorism when you talk about
0:27Islam now this is a very simple
0:30straightforward question I hope I can
0:32get a straightforward answer with what's
0:34happening in Pakistan Iraq Afghanistan
0:38just to name a few I'm not stereotyping
0:40I hope no one takes offence but when you
0:43hear on the news that a woman is cooking
0:45food for our kids and in a suicide
0:47bomber comes and kills them I want to
0:50ask you a simple question what is that
0:52is that Islam or is that people who
0:56don't understand what Islam is and they
0:59have their own perception of Islam and
1:01please let me ask you one more thing can
1:04you give me an answer that is not in
1:06world war one or something there were
1:08more people that died or this is all
1:10propaganda and these are Americans
1:13killing people and your mindset then
1:19again by circling the weather of the
1:21question that the years in Afghanistan
1:24in Pakistan a woman cooking for us who
1:26said Mumbai comes and blows up and kills
1:28as far as it's not what the media is
1:31saying forget about it I'll give you
1:33ruling of Islam whether what the media
1:35says right or wrong Quran says in surah
1:36maidah chapter number 5 verse number 32
1:39if anyone kills any other human being
1:42unless it be for murder
1:43or for spreading corruption in the land
1:45it is as though he has killed the whole
1:47of humanity any person kills any other
1:50human being where the Muslim or
1:51non-muslim unless it be for murder
1:54or for spreading corruption in the land
1:55it is as though he has killed the whole
1:57of humanity and if any human being saved
1:59that the human being it is as though he
2:01has saved the whole nation so-called
2:03with the Quran killing any single in
2:06human being is prohibited if a suicide
2:09bomber comes and kills a woman who's
2:11cooking Jennison it is 100% prohibited
2:14whether they're in Pakistan Afghanistan
2:16America Dubai is the answer clear okay
2:19hundred percent off whoever was doing it
2:21whoever was doing it whoever doing it
2:25whether namesake Muslim or American or
2:29propaganda whoever's doing it it is
2:31totally prohibited okay fine since the
2:34clear answer that hundred wasn't clear
2:36whether you do anyone does wrong yeah
2:38100 percent wrong it is as though yes
2:41killed the whole of humanity there is no
2:43other scripture that I know of today
2:45there's no other scripture that I know
2:47of today that gives this statement that
2:49if you kill one human being it is as
2:52though you killed all you might accept
2:53the Koran there's no other scripture
2:55that I know we say that if you say one
2:57human me you have saved the whole of
2:58humanity no other scripture perfect now
3:00can I ask you something
3:02if you're emotional this is wrong yeah
3:03and there wasn't no fine fine fine now
3:05why are you here the way I look at it
3:09all of these innocent loving people here
3:12why isn't this convention somewhere like
3:14Afghanistan and Pakistan trying to teach
3:16people that what they are doing is not
3:18Islam and it's just some brainwashed
3:21chaos and that they're going to go to
3:23hell and they're not going to go to
3:25heaven for killing innocent people for
3:28the 9/11 attacks for the London bombings
3:30innocent people died if I don't like you
3:33and I kill you it's more justified than
3:35if I don't like somebody if I don't like
3:37Jews and I go and kill innocent
3:39Americans with families why don't you go
3:41and educate these people and have a
3:44better cause rather than converting four
3:46or five people here Marcia thousands of
3:48lives but rather last a very good
3:50question
3:50he is telling me why don't they go to
3:53Pakistan to Afghanistan and spread this
3:56message and prevent this brother I go
3:59every day even now I'm going there I am
4:01on the satellite we have peace TV
4:03reaching 100 million people this is how
4:05much that's what
4:08twenty thirty thousand people the
4:11audience here will be twenty thirty
4:12thousand people not more than that you
4:14see that recording why do we they're
4:15funny so that I can go to Pakistan I can
4:18go to Afghanistan I can go to even
4:20America and my lectures on jihad and
4:22terrorism the maximum you ership it has
4:25got more than 100 million people and it
4:28is meant for the full world I'm giving
4:30here it is being recorded mean telecast
4:32the thing is I cannot force anyone the
4:35point of the sword accept my methods can
4:36oppose you
4:37am i forcing you am i forcing you to
4:40accept my message now you know how can I
4:42force the people of Pakistan how can I
4:44hold the people of Afghanistan at the
4:46same time at the same time at the same
4:50time I also tell the innocent people
4:52being killed I agree with you what is
4:54the numbers you said you know four or
4:57five people converting here is better
4:59than telling that my job is to deliver
5:01the message first acronym anthem zakat
5:04mentioned in the Quran surah - after it
5:06it was someone 21 22 our job is to
5:08deliver the message we can convert
5:10hearts Allah told the Prophet you are
5:13not the manager of a faith it is Allah
5:15gives the hidayah
5:15I can talk I cannot convert it is
5:20Almighty God who converts I can talk
5:23whether they understand or not in
5:25Pakistan
5:25it is Almighty God come into a basic
5:28question according to me you should see
5:30my cassette it's teri the Muslim
5:32monopoly is there is a Muslim monopoly
5:35if you see that cassette your mind your
5:37vision of terrorism will improve time
5:39does not permit me to give a talk here
5:41again right Delhi for sure according to
5:44me the terrorists are mainly the
5:47politicians it is they who create this
5:50you go anywhere you know in India all
5:54the rights that took place in directly
5:56directly it is a politician Bobby must
5:58did y de barbarie Mazda tried to take
6:00place why because the politicians
6:02Gujarat right politicians what happened
6:05about 9/11 see Mike I said it was an
6:07inside job are called to say reduce
6:09scientist of America they say 9/11
6:11cannot be done by 19 Arabs it is
6:14impossible it was inside job
6:1672 scientists of America
6:18knocking like inside job who didn't
6:20dodge bush
6:21okay the you understand babe let me go
6:24build mansions
6:26Afghanistan houses no people being
6:28killed they are sending cluster bombs
6:31covered there thousands of people you
6:34are talking about suicide bomb that is
6:36Haram I'm not condoning it I'm
6:38condemning it but the biggest thing to
6:39be condemned is the American sending the
6:41fighters in Afghanistan killing
6:43thousands of people in Iraq killing
6:45thousands of people
6:47Saddam Hussein I'm not a fan of Saddam
6:51Hussein he had done mistakes the people
6:53of Iraq they were fed up of Saddam
6:55Hussein but after America came there
6:57they are more fed up of the American
6:59than Saddam Hussein that does not
7:03justify just because Saddam Hussein was
7:06bad that does not justify America to
7:08come and take away das by either doing
7:10it for the money for the oil what is the
7:13main interest is the oil who created
7:17Taliban when Russia came the Americans
7:21supported the plan is created Taliban
7:23now they wanted to take over the
7:24fighting back who's the creation
7:26Americans the biggest is that one to me
7:30in this history George Bush now he's no
7:32longer there George Bush number one on
7:34that sorry I'm who is he on there with
7:36me on that so I am also going to America
7:39I'm even going to America life I don't
7:41satellite giving the message to
7:43Americans I was the first person that I
7:45know of in the public after 9/11 in
7:48Australia I said I'm a fundamentalist
7:50and I consider George Bush to be the
7:51biggest terrorist it came at headlines
7:56in December in December 2001 when I gave
8:01a talk in Australia when the Consul
8:03General asked me that what do you
8:05consider whose are terrorists I said
8:06George Bush number one it came as
8:08headline dr. zakir naik call themselves
8:10the fundamentalist and considered George
8:12Bush to be terrorist number one now
8:13every Tom Dick and Harry is calling him
8:15a terrorist at that time no one has the
8:18guts what we realize we are speaking the
8:21truth whether George Bush you know many
8:24people say when I ever talked in London
8:26on terrorism very good talk people
8:28enjoyed a youngster commander to George
8:31Bush George Bush full talk of mangani
8:34have a beloved prophet of masala Salaam
8:36there were two staunchest enemy of Islam
8:39both were called Omar Omar on the
8:42Prophet prayed to Allah that give
8:44Hidayah to one of these tumor and omar
8:47bin khattab may allah be pleased with
8:48him was a secondary of some Allah gave
8:51his daya who was the staunchest enemy of
8:53Islam became the staunchest supporters
8:54therefore I said may Allah give you
8:56there to George Bush I cannot I can
9:02speak I cannot even Iyer
9:04I can tell him what he's doing is wrong
9:06I don't want to kill him I want them to
9:08accept Islam killing is useless what's
9:12the use of killing accepting is better
9:14so that is the reason we are giving the
9:17message those whose hearts are clean the
9:19accepting insha'Allah God would open
9:21your heart also one day he went God
9:23opened your heart one day I cannot do it
9:27I can give the message I can push you
9:29unless God give you unless you strive if
9:32you strive God will help you if you
9:34don't strive your heart will not be
9:35opened some people ask questions only
9:37for questioning and a question which
9:39but the true gentleman
9:43Marcia with Chavo head when he gets the
9:45answer he accepts it you know people
9:47just ask for questioning my question
9:49Bush negative you spoke very loudly I am
9:51asking I gave a speech I said so many
9:54things do you agree with an order yes I
9:57agree with it are you a new I'm actually
10:00your favorite I'm an atheist
10:02it is Marcia I heard you enjoy your idea
10:05you're my favorite
10:07no I'm not your friend but I was told
10:08that you like having debates it's such
10:10yes yes
10:11it is okay brother you're an atheist
10:14fine I would like to congratulate you
10:17you'd like to work I'd like to
10:20congratulate you you know why there
10:23isn't a completely because all the
10:26others all the human being the blindly
10:28following father the Christians our son
10:30is a Christian his parents are Hindu
10:33he's a Hindu many of the Muslim parents
10:36are Muslims you are thinking I don't
10:39know their father or their father they
10:40did no good
10:42so you're thinking these are the people
10:44they worship the Almighty God who falls
10:46down and breaks so you are looking and
10:48the reason I congratulate because you
10:51have said the first part of the Islamic
10:53Shah Dada la ilaha there is no God we
10:58have already said half the Karma another
11:01second time they have said the full
11:03Karma you are half Muslim now it just
11:06means half calm I know Lila ha only
11:09thing afternoon la la batalla which I
11:11shall do inshallah I'm congratulating
11:17you because you have agreed with the
11:20other people who believe in wrong gods
11:22first I have to spend half my time in
11:24time to convince them the God ever
11:26shipping is wrong we have already agreed
11:28there is no God only thing I have to do
11:29is prove to you about Allah which I
11:32shall do inshallah brother suppose they
11:35the equipment which is bought equipment
11:37important front of you no one in the
11:40world has ever seen
11:41no human being a scene is one in front
11:43of you and if ask you the question who
11:45is the first person who will be able to
11:47tell you the mechanism of the equipment
11:49I heard this speech and it's the Creator
11:52it is a creator so the creator of that
11:55equipment will be the first person who
11:58will be able to tell you the mechanism
11:59of that object you may say creator you
12:02may say manufacturer you may say
12:03inventor you may say make a whatever it
12:05is somewhat similar now I am asking you
12:06a question how did this universe come
12:08into existence how did this universe
12:11come into existence you are going to now
12:14mention the Big Bang and although I'm
12:16asking you
12:17tell me what I'm going to measure I want
12:18to know what whatever if you know you
12:20are I'm asking you according to your
12:23nose the thing is I've actually heard
12:25this speech before my really a good fan
12:26of yours you know that I shall you're a
12:28good fan good fan radicular practical if
12:32you're a practical file you will follow
12:34if I'm wrong you correct me if I'm right
12:36to join me
12:37no I only learnt about you about two
12:38weeks back actually fine
12:40two weeks you became a great fan marshal
12:42I'm very happy about it in two ways you
12:44learn about me that means you know you
12:46know about the creation the Big Bang
12:49which became snow recently Quran
12:51mentioned fourteen years ago in Surrey
12:53I'm glad chapter 21 verse number 30 our
12:55lives in a coffer overseas but do you
12:58know that yeah similarly we did not know
13:00that the earth was spherical we came to
13:02recently Quran mentioned fourteen years
13:04ago in surah nas' chapter 7 and verse
13:06summer that need a spherical we thought
13:08first the light of the moon is all night
13:09Quran mentions fourteen years ago the
13:11light of the Moon is not its own and
13:13affected light which became know
13:14recently who could have mentioned this
13:16they've biology there is water cycle
13:18which we learned in school
13:19there is embryology there is genetics my
13:22question is who would have mentioned all
13:24these things in the Quran so if you have
13:26heard this you also know the answer who
13:28could have mentioned in the Quran same
13:30answer the Creator the Creator this
13:34Creator who has mentioned in the Quran
13:37we Korra's Allah so that we do believe
13:40in the Creator who could have mentioned
13:43this in the Quran the Creator the
13:45Creator created the human beings the
13:47person who created all this universe it
13:49can be human me who writes all this so
13:52now do you believe in the Creator well
13:56there are different perspectives you see
13:58a person science or you can think about
14:03God now the debate is which to follow
14:05you can follow both I believe in both
14:07I'm a student of science also also I'm a
14:10believer in God Boris as my opening
14:12question stated what I asked about
14:15terrorism I believe you also know those
14:17are certain facts that will come to tell
14:19you them later on yeah
14:22I don't know brother avail brother will
14:24you ask me direct question who said
14:26bombing killing innocent wrong I give
14:28direct answer now I am asking you a
14:30direct question you give me right answer
14:31you asked me you were happy with man sir
14:34no beating around the bush I am ask you
14:36directly when you believe in the Creator
14:37why don't you accept the Creator I am
14:40ask you directly you ask me direct
14:42question in front of 30,000 people I
14:44give a direct answer I am asking any
14:46question you didn't believe in God I
14:48congratulate you
14:49now I prove to you that the Creator or
14:51the Quran now I'm asking the question
14:53why don't you believe in the Creator I
14:54didn't say that I believe in the Creator
14:57making your speech oh I didn't watch
15:00whether I didn't ask you to come here to
15:02mimic me please did I ask you to come
15:05and mimic me I asked you who wrote you
15:08said Creator
15:08I didn't say did I say that no my speech
15:11I don't say that's what you said even I
15:14didn't say the question I said that
15:16means you haven't seen my speech
15:17correctly like how you are telling when
15:19I ask any atheist he gives the reply
15:22create or not I not I that means I
15:24haven't seen my speech correctly it is a
15:26person like you who I might have asked
15:28the question do he give the reply like
15:31how you give the reply now did I ask you
15:33to mimic or did I ask you to give answer
15:34from your heart so that means you are
15:37not a very truthful person now you asked
15:40me a question brother
15:41I give answer directly from my heart
15:44correct you know I'm asked me a question
15:46you give Nansen or thing that I
15:47mimicking okay if I say the Creator is
15:50what you want to hear
15:51now here no I believe you
15:56if we say that I agree to the Creator
15:58now what if I say that I agree to the
16:01creator of what was written but I don't
16:03believe what was written justifies
16:06everything you're giving me six very
16:09good very good six things but there's a
16:11lot in life that's not written there
16:13fine fine gravity or you're just telling
16:17me about light very very good very good
16:20the brother says it believes in the
16:22Creator but everything is not there
16:25brother this book the Quran is not a
16:29book of science SC i N
16:32see it's a book of science s IG ns
16:36it's a book of ayats there are more than
16:416,000 signs 6000 ayats in the Quran or
16:44talk which more than a thousand speak
16:46about science it's not a book of science
16:482 plus 2 equal to 4 does not it in there
16:50but the beauty of it is what is written
16:53we did not know you men mean didn't ask
16:55me the Creator Road
16:56if it had everything of science it would
16:58be a voluminous book as big as the world
17:00trade center or maybe it's bridge the
17:01web knowledge building now it is not a
17:04book of science rather please not
17:05misunderstand it is to prove through the
17:07scientists that this is the Word of God
17:09this is a lot of greater what do you
17:11have to tell me to disprove it you have
17:13to take out a mistake in the Quran Quran
17:15says in surah and decides after for
17:17worse Tamara - for Allah yes at the
17:19brunel of Quran well how can I mean in
17:22the gorilla never Judah fix elephant
17:24kathira do they not consider the quran'
17:25with care
17:26had it been from anyone besides Allah
17:28they would have been contradictions in
17:29it there have been mistakes in it so for
17:31you to disprove the Quran to be the word
17:33of Allah we have to take our mistakes
17:35that does it I said please come up and
17:37take out mistakes in the Quran why if
17:42it's wrong I will leave it if it's right
17:44you join me
17:45it's a - wait not one way but how old is
17:50the Quran I don't exactly know how the
17:52Quran is approximately 1400 years old ok
17:55and how long have human beings existed
17:57in this planet you remind me a millions
17:59of years millions of years I'm not
18:01challenging you don't don't get this
18:03wrong I've just my life people values me
18:05what is the right people challenging ya
18:06ok if you want to challenge then I'll
18:08take that step then ok what is the
18:10reason that first of all is I believe
18:13Christianity is older than Islam we
18:19shall be not older than Islam what's the
18:21difference if plam is there since time
18:24immemorial since man set foot on the
18:26earth ok
18:27from the first amendment already there
18:29Prophet Muhammad is the last and final
18:31messenger he came 1400 years ago he was
18:34the last messenger Quran is the last
18:37evolution not the first revelation this
18:39is the last Testament
18:40otherwise Islam is a sin
18:42Memorial it's an asylum Jesus Christ was
18:44a Muslim according to Quran Abraham was
18:46a Muslim Oakland Oakland peace be upon
18:48them all so Islam means peace acquired
18:51by submitting a will to Almighty God
18:52it is there since time immemorial okay
18:56so getting to the point I asked you the
18:59timescale that the Koran has existed and
19:02the timescale of human beings after your
19:04time fear of Quran if now maybe a fifth
19:06time you know of the Quran the Quran no
19:08the holy book not not Islam we can say
19:11Islam existed for forever but why was
19:14the Quran invent placed on earth
19:17afterwards I also wanted to ask you
19:22something I always wanted to know about
19:24that is the Darwin's theory of evolution
19:27I know there's a lot of controversy on
19:30that but why do you do you believe in
19:33evolution or you believe man was placed
19:36directly and the whole thing of apes the
19:39science that has proved that human
19:40beings emanated from apes do you agree
19:44to question that sorry about that
19:47no problem to question do you believe in
19:49Darwin's theory science has proved that
19:52you men be the manipulated from ape do
19:54you believe in do you believe that you
19:55mean me the place and second question if
19:57I was Quran revealed for the angels back
19:59why not before two questions regarding a
20:02correction in your question science
20:04hasn't proved that you mean me that me
20:06or from me it is Darwin's theory not
20:09Darwin's fact it's the theory there is
20:13no book today there is no book today on
20:16the face of the earth we save the fact
20:18of evolution its theory the fact of the
20:21origin of human beings no it's eerie and
20:24for your information Darwin himself said
20:27that they were missing links in the
20:28theory if you read his book On the
20:30Origin of Species
20:31he writes in this on a ship by the name
20:34of HMS Beagle he goes to a island by the
20:36name of calatrava's and they received
20:38birds were packing in Mitch's in holes
20:41based on the holes they pecked the beak
20:43of the birds became short and long based
20:46on that observation he propounded the
20:48theory of natural selection he wrote a
20:51letter to his friend Thomas Tom Paine in
20:531861
20:54I have no proof for my theory of
20:57evolution but because it helps me in
20:59giving replies to embryology to genetics
21:03that there isn't a proponent no proof on
21:05it that is in a school you know to joke
21:08around which to say if you were present
21:10at Darwin's time the oven would have
21:12been proved right time to infinite I'm
21:14telling my colleague either ape is a
21:15monkey there were missing links
21:17furthermore all the three stages today
21:20science and advance we have come to know
21:22that the first and or safer to give a
21:24nice man the next stage that we have
21:27Neanderthal man cro-magnon all these
21:29stages that we have today of the human
21:33being that we found there's no link
21:34between them certain things what Darwin
21:37said that life is evolved from water I
21:39agree with that Quran says that sorry
21:40MBA chapter 21 Muslim assertive or
21:42nominal my coalition hey we have created
21:45every living thing from water I believe
21:46in that but saying that we have evolved
21:48from one specialty at the in the
21:50hypothesis according to molecular
21:53biologist and say scrape he said it is
21:55letting my imagination run true while to
21:58say that we have been evolved from apes
21:59if that was true today we'll find
22:02someone in between man and human being
22:03you only find into mythology you don't
22:06find anywhere in the world a monkey man
22:08do you find so what do the evolutionist
22:11talk now it is a hypothesis and most of
22:14the scientists today disagree with it
22:16there is only a small negligible
22:18percentage with you believe in Darwin's
22:21theory majority of the scientists of all
22:24day disprove Darwin's theory I feel your
22:26knowledge of science is not up to date
22:28brother but doctor not bad wait
22:30all right you asking me a question I am
22:33replying then we have to give chance to
22:35other they are all there are five six
22:37questions sorry I thought you are being
22:40entertained you having fun with the end
22:42renew under enter name the other
22:44non-muslim brothers if all non-muslim
22:46girl ever come back to you so what we
22:48realized our wins theory brother your
22:50knowledge on science is weak we say Adam
22:52and Eve were the first human beings that
22:54for the Quran says furthermore regarding
22:56a second question okay after answer
22:59question I'm gonna answer second
23:01question you want to put the third
23:02question that mean on listening to me or
23:04you have forgotten you have two
23:05questions
23:06diversity that we are a good question
23:08era now you ask me the question why was
23:12Quran revealed 49 years back by not
23:14before you know my son he wants to
23:16become a doctor he's telling me father
23:19Abba why he would be in school and
23:21college why don't you put me in Medical
23:23College directly and first go to nursery
23:26then go to primary then go to secondary
23:29school then go to college then go to
23:31medical college I can't put up a medical
23:34call it directly why he should know the
23:36basics similarly Almighty God is our
23:38Creator he kept on sending at the
23:40revelations Almighty God our Creator
23:43thought 1400 years back was the right
23:46time that human we could absorb this
23:48message he revealed it
23:49he's our Creator he knows better than
23:51you and me 1400 years back he revealed
23:57his last message the Quran - the last
24:00and final messenger mohammed salah
24:01solemn and mention the front in forum
24:03Isaiah chapter number 5 verse number 3
24:05on this day have a perfected my religion
24:07for you the perfect form and have
24:10complete my favour on you each one the
24:11human beings and has chosen for you
24:13Islam after this nothing new can be
24:16added into the basics of Islam nothing
24:19can be subtracted that's it so Almighty
24:21God knows when we can imbibe the message
24:24of the Quran and this is the last
24:26Testament last messenger prophet
24:28Muhammad no other messenger come after
24:30this hope this answer question and I
24:33hope that you even accept besides being
24:35my fan we also accept my teachings in
24:37Shahi be next time when you come here
24:39maybe next time you tell me I come again
24:41tomorrow timeframe tomorrow I come back
24:43fast for you alone
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